1 00:00:06,710 --> 00:00:04,550 the launch date for the space x3 mission 2 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:06,720 has not been reset yet but when it does 3 00:00:10,230 --> 00:00:08,400 launch the next dragon cargo ship will 4 00:00:13,030 --> 00:00:10,240 deliver hardware for a number of new 5 00:00:15,509 --> 00:00:13,040 science experiments one of them known as 6 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:15,519 micro 7 is looking at the impact of 7 00:00:19,269 --> 00:00:17,440 microgravity on the human body at the 8 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:19,279 cellular level 9 00:00:24,390 --> 00:00:21,439 i spoke with the principal investigator 10 00:00:25,830 --> 00:00:24,400 dr hong lu wu a life sciences researcher 11 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:25,840 in the biomedical research and 12 00:00:30,150 --> 00:00:28,080 environmental sciences division here at 13 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:30,160 johnson space center and i asked him to 14 00:00:35,590 --> 00:00:33,040 explain what micro 7 is 15 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:35,600 when astronauts fly in space they are 16 00:00:41,670 --> 00:00:38,719 exposed to microgravity as well as a 17 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:41,680 space radiation so one of the important 18 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:44,399 question is that how 19 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:47,920 cells respond to dna damages induced 20 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:50,160 from radiation exposure so this 21 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:52,879 particular experiment will fly human 22 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:53,840 cells 23 00:00:58,229 --> 00:00:54,719 to 24 00:01:00,630 --> 00:00:58,239 space and damage the dna in the cells 25 00:01:03,510 --> 00:01:00,640 with the chemical called bleomycin and 26 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:03,520 we will study the cellular response to 27 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:05,600 such a damage so it sounds like there's 28 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:07,119 kind of several different aspects of 29 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:08,640 this you fly first of all the dna to 30 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:10,560 space then you damage it and then i 31 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:12,560 guess bring it back and study it yes and 32 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:15,600 we'll fly our live cells to space rather 33 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:18,240 than make the dna yes then we will 34 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:22,400 damage the dna in space and then fix the 35 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:23,439 cells 36 00:01:28,230 --> 00:01:25,920 in space and bring the samples back to 37 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:28,240 the earth and perform all the analysis 38 00:01:33,270 --> 00:01:30,880 on the ground now how how unique is this 39 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:33,280 have we had dna in space before have we 40 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:36,000 damaged it in space yes uh dna has been 41 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:38,640 damaged in space and there has been a 42 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:41,040 number of experiments before but there 43 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:42,640 are a couple of uh 44 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:45,840 novelties in our experiment one is that 45 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:47,280 previously 46 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:50,720 the cells were damaged 47 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:54,399 by a radiation sometimes immediately 48 00:01:58,789 --> 00:01:55,759 after they 49 00:02:00,870 --> 00:01:58,799 reach orbit and but in this case we will 50 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:00,880 let the cells 51 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:03,360 adapt to the space environment before 52 00:02:08,949 --> 00:02:06,719 damaging the dna and two is that we will 53 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:08,959 look at the molecular changes 54 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:13,280 dna rna and protein changes after uh dna 55 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:16,480 damages and this is uh has not been done 56 00:02:21,589 --> 00:02:19,680 in space by other investigators okay and 57 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:21,599 i guess this is all to kind of simulate 58 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:22,560 what we 59 00:02:28,229 --> 00:02:25,920 think happens in space to astronaut dna 60 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:28,239 now this is uh uh 61 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:31,040 only the first step of a serious 62 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:33,599 experiment i hope to address these 63 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:36,560 important questions as to how 64 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:37,840 cells 65 00:02:43,350 --> 00:02:40,959 or human body respond to damages to 66 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:43,360 space radiation exposure and 67 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:46,640 unfortunately currently we don't have a 68 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:49,360 controlled radiation source 69 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:50,400 in space 70 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:53,440 so the first step is to produce such a 71 00:02:56,390 --> 00:02:54,560 damage 72 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:56,400 with a chemical 73 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:58,480 okay interesting well what what kind of 74 00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:00,480 things can you learn from this 75 00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:02,959 we'll learn uh many different things 76 00:03:07,910 --> 00:03:05,040 basically uh 77 00:03:10,390 --> 00:03:07,920 the most importantly we'll know whether 78 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:10,400 the cells uh in the microgravity 79 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:12,239 environment are 80 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:15,760 more sensitive to radiation damage or 81 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:20,000 more resistant to radiation damages or 82 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,879 using more technical terms is how dna 83 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:24,560 repair 84 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:27,200 will be affected by the microgravity 85 00:03:31,589 --> 00:03:28,799 environment 86 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:31,599 and is that something that that we would 87 00:03:34,869 --> 00:03:32,879 we would see the repair in this 88 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:34,879 experiment or is that 89 00:03:39,910 --> 00:03:37,200 do you hypothesize that yes and we will 90 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:39,920 uh look at the dna repair 91 00:03:46,869 --> 00:03:43,599 by analyzing the uh gene expressions 92 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:46,879 particularly those genes responsible for 93 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:48,239 dna repair 94 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:50,239 okay well what part do the astronauts 95 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:52,319 play in this experiment do they 96 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:54,480 have any interaction with it yes and 97 00:03:59,670 --> 00:03:57,120 this is a rather 98 00:04:02,390 --> 00:03:59,680 complex experiment as a matter of fact 99 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:02,400 so once the cells reach orbit 100 00:04:06,390 --> 00:04:03,680 and 101 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:06,400 after several days on the space station 102 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:09,439 the astronauts will treat the cells with 103 00:04:14,789 --> 00:04:12,959 biomycin and then fix the cells as 104 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:14,799 different time points 105 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:17,759 and for the analysis 106 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:22,160 of dna rna and proteins as well as 107 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:25,360 the analysis for dna damage markers 108 00:04:27,189 --> 00:04:26,160 okay 109 00:04:29,909 --> 00:04:27,199 well so 110 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:29,919 is this something that is um 111 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:32,320 just applicable to space travel or is it 112 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:34,720 helpful for people here on earth as well 113 00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:37,759 yes and as a matter of fact if we can 114 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:39,280 understand how 115 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:42,160 uh space environment microgravity in 116 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:43,360 particular 117 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:44,800 influenced the 118 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:48,000 cellular response to dna damage and that 119 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:49,440 would have 120 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:51,680 an impact on earth 121 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:53,600 and particularly 122 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:56,560 in the field of radiation therapy 123 00:05:02,710 --> 00:04:59,120 because some of the tumor cells are 124 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:02,720 resistant to radiation damage and if we 125 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:03,520 will 126 00:05:09,909 --> 00:05:06,720 be able to identify some new pathways 127 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:09,919 that will sensitize the cells to 128 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:12,320 radiation and that will be very helpful 129 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:13,759 sounds like it well thank you so much 130 00:05:16,710 --> 00:05:15,039 for coming and talking with us we really 131 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:16,720 appreciate it thank you very much my 132 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:18,560 pleasure all right again this was dr 133 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:20,320 hong lu wu who is the principal 134 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:22,080 investigator for micro seven it's going 135 00:05:26,070 --> 00:05:24,400 to be launching on spacex 3 so we'll 136 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:26,080 hope to hear more about that in the